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OK I am a horrible person but I thought that Dean’s speech to Kevin was incredibly manipulative, though not deliberately so. It’s just that Dean’s only tactic for keeping people with him is leveraging their guilt about how much he’s given for them, and he’s learned that it works. Also, what is with ‘family equals person you’d die for’? Dean Winchester began this odyssey risking his life for perfect strangers as a matter of course, which is a big part of what made him so awesome, and he and Sam kept it up this episode running straight into the trap for a hunter he knew and one he didn’t. Family has to mean more than that—person you’d live for, maybe. I wanted to think that Dean, at some level, knew that. At least that gives some good parallelism with his interaction with Sam at the end: Dean is saying what’s expedient, but not what’s true, and it’s not good for anybody.
Ok, and at the same time Dean is brimful of love and hands it out readily (see above re: what makes him so awesome) so I do think he feels deep affection for Kevin, and he would plainly risk his life for Kevin—but when you say “Dean, Sam, Cas and Kevin” you have gone beyond what I believe in the profound bond area, sorry.
Gravity: Sorry, Film Critic Hulk, but I have to agree with my husband here: the incredible visual accomplishments of the film were undermined, to the point that I found it rather silly, by the terrible soundtrack. Parts of the film knew how to use space’s silence! Why the horrible music cues telling us exactly what was going to happen at key points?
Ok, and at the same time Dean is brimful of love and hands it out readily (see above re: what makes him so awesome) so I do think he feels deep affection for Kevin, and he would plainly risk his life for Kevin—but when you say “Dean, Sam, Cas and Kevin” you have gone beyond what I believe in the profound bond area, sorry.
Gravity: Sorry, Film Critic Hulk, but I have to agree with my husband here: the incredible visual accomplishments of the film were undermined, to the point that I found it rather silly, by the terrible soundtrack. Parts of the film knew how to use space’s silence! Why the horrible music cues telling us exactly what was going to happen at key points?
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I had issues with Sam's head trip in the premiere, but actually, what it really raised for me again was the whole squishy issue of how angels take vessels, and how for all they talk about needing consent, most of them couldn't give two shits about, like, actual informed consent in the sense a human would understand it. Abaddon may complain that demons buy from humans what they should be taking by force, but man, on balance, that's a way straighter deal than most vessels seem to get.
(Dean, who's of course coming at it from a totally different place, starts out saying that it's totally up to Sam whether Sam is saved by Ezekiel--which is true as far as it goes, but no way were Dean's nerves up to giving that to Sam as a real choice.)
I like your "if Sam knew what was happening he wouldn't be able to help himself" logic, I think I'm going with that.