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cryptoxin's post, among others: No doubt where you stand on Recent LJ Events depends in part on where you sit. Here's where I sit: I don't consider myself a member of HP fandom, but my primary fandom for the last few years has been Smallville.
Here are some pictures of people the narrative told us were 15:
That's the poster advertising the show, plastered everywhere in public in mid-2001. Then there's the episode "Nicodemus":
So we're supposed to desire them -- bluntly, we're supposed to fantasize about fucking them -- but we're not supposted to say that. And we're not supposed to share our fantasies, because that would be sick. Contradictory and hypocritical are words you could use about mainstream depictions of adolescent sexuality -- which is not to accuse anyone in this debate, but to point out that the American social context is, at best, confusing. And to say that I'm basically withcoffeeandink; one of the things I want from fandom as a community of women is the ability to say, "hey, that emperor [or in this case, kid] isn't wearing any clothes!"
NYU law professor Amy Adler wrote a very interesting piece, The Perverse Law of Child Pornography, available here, arguing that our cultural and legal discourses about child porn contribute to the further sexualization of children. I recommend it to those interested in the theoretical side of all this.
cryptoxin's post, among others: No doubt where you stand on Recent LJ Events depends in part on where you sit. Here's where I sit: I don't consider myself a member of HP fandom, but my primary fandom for the last few years has been Smallville.Here are some pictures of people the narrative told us were 15:
That's the poster advertising the show, plastered everywhere in public in mid-2001. Then there's the episode "Nicodemus":So we're supposed to desire them -- bluntly, we're supposed to fantasize about fucking them -- but we're not supposted to say that. And we're not supposed to share our fantasies, because that would be sick. Contradictory and hypocritical are words you could use about mainstream depictions of adolescent sexuality -- which is not to accuse anyone in this debate, but to point out that the American social context is, at best, confusing. And to say that I'm basically with
coffeeandink; one of the things I want from fandom as a community of women is the ability to say, "hey, that emperor [or in this case, kid] isn't wearing any clothes!"NYU law professor Amy Adler wrote a very interesting piece, The Perverse Law of Child Pornography, available here, arguing that our cultural and legal discourses about child porn contribute to the further sexualization of children. I recommend it to those interested in the theoretical side of all this.
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Yes. In many fandoms, the source text sexualizes minors. And society tells us that we're supposed to buy/consume products based on this sexualization, but we're not supposed to create our own product based on the same thing or deal with the issues raised in any kind of positive way. It's all backroom shame and plain brown paper wrappers.
Sexuality, and adolescent sexuality at that, is *such* an integral part of Smallville canon. And in S4 they do retcon Clark's age, reduce it by a year, so that his Las Vegas elopement with Alicia can in no way be legal. But there we go again with adolescent sexuality (17-year old Clark wants to get married so he can have SEX!).
But we're perverts and child pornographers for discussing, drawing or writing about the product sold to us.