I saw a woman on the street today, wearing a T-shirt that said [geek] (except with real pointed brackets, which LJ apparently doesn't like you to use if you don't mean them). Why didn't I like it? Because it didn't say [/geek] on the back. Sloppy coding, says I.

And I read a case that referred to "a bountiful harvest for those of us who now walk the same interpretive path," and thought, shouldn't that be "those of us who now raid the interpretive larder"?

I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 last night and found it painful, but not in a bad way, if that makes any sense. I hadn't realized how vulnerable I still am to Sept. 11 images. As a filmmaker, Moore has better and worse moments, and for me one of the best was when he kept on showing the fragments of paper blowing in the wind and smoke, long enough that, though I was still crying, I could also see the image as an image as well as evidence of this horrendous act. Just about as emotionally painful were the Iraqi woman asking what she & the people around her had done to deserve being bombed and killed, and the Michigan mother whose son was killed in Iraq. The contrast between those segments and the talking heads/politicians was intense, and when Moore let that contrast speak for itself or at least left you to finish connecting the dots, the film was extremely powerful. Moore's song choice was notably good in some segments; I especially liked his use of the Greatest American Hero theme when Bush was on the aircraft carrier with that later-embarrassing "Mission Accomplished" banner (if you weren't as geeky as me -- see, on topic -- you might not remember that the theme includes the line "It should have been somebody else") and his use of "Keep on Rockin' in the Free World" over the end credits. What seemed like a cheap trick at the beginning -- showing all the politicos having their hair fixed and their noses powdered in preparation for going "live," which made them look ridiculous -- was turned into a nice bracketing device when the end showed the same people pulling out their microphones, though ultimately it was still also a cheap trick; identical footage could be found for Bill and Hillary, I'm sure.

Moore's hints of explicit deals with the Saudis were unpersuasive, and the repetition of pictures of the Bushes with Saudis eventually began to seem xenophobic. (It also detracted from the later revelation that high-level officials met with members of the Taliban to discuss oil.) He was much better when he was suggesting that habits of mind formed by long association with the House of Saud made the Bushies unwilling to challenge their family friends and unwilling to ask the members of the bin Laden family who were in the US until Sept. 13 to stay & chat a while. His elaboration of the Saudi billions invested in the US -- 6-7% of the US economy, by one estimate -- cuts against the idea that the Saudi ruling family wants to destroy the US, it seems to me, though I don't doubt that they're happy to support fundamentalist regimes elsewhere even if that has the ultimate effect of harming the US.

The one moment that made me gasp out loud in disbelief was when Bush made a typical statement about how everyone needs to support the US in the fight against terrorism and we have to be strong in this dangerous time -- and then turned, said, "now watch this!" and hit his golf ball. The shift was unbelievable, as if someone had turned a dial from "gravely concerned and resolute" to "carefree." I really couldn't believe that he remembered what he'd just been talking about.

Also, to finish on a lawyerly-geeky note, one of the ads before the movie was for C2, Coke's new half-sugar half-Nutrasweet beverage, and the thing that really interested me about it was that the low-carb craze hit so fast that Coke didn't have time to register "C2" as a trademark; all it had was the TM next to it, and not the (R) of a registered trademark. Z. was highly amused that this was what I found most memorable about the ad. He thinks C2 is not so much about carbs as it is about tapping into the guy market, because most guys won't buy Diet Coke, but they might try something that comes in a black can. Evidence for this proposition comes from the steps outside the school, where a bunch of people including me were waiting for the fire alarm to end so we could go inside -- a group of people were discussing low-carb stuff, and one mentioned C2. The guy in the group said, "I bought that. I didn't even know what it was at the time, but it had a wicked can." He didn't say what he thought of it qua beverage. I guess image isn't nothing, after all.

From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com


To make pointy brackets - type & lt ; (without spaces, so ampersandlt;) and & gt ; (again without spaces).

<so you get this>


From: [identity profile] echoskeleton.livejournal.com


The Saudi sequence didn't bother me, but that might be because I interpreted the meaning differently. I thought that the point was that Bush was more interested in keeping his ties to the bin Laden's secret, and placating his Saudi investors than in protecting the country after 9/11. Like when the guy talked about how odd it was that Bush immediately shipped the bin Laden's out of the country, instead of using them to ferret out Osama. Or how he didn't start searching for bin Laden right away, but was immediately interested in using the attacks to justify a war in Iraq. I thought that Michael Moore was trying to say that Bush had always put his (and his buddies) financial interest ahead of the needs of the American people. That it always came back to money for him. But I can see how that would be irritating when interpreted differently.

From: [identity profile] harriet-spy.livejournal.com


Actually, they filed for C2 back in Class 32 November 2002, but looks like someone in-house has been really slow about getting that last statement of use in!

From: [identity profile] grifyn.livejournal.com


I saw a woman on the street today, wearing a T-shirt that said [geek] (except with real pointed brackets, which LJ apparently doesn't like you to use if you don't mean them). Why didn't I like it? Because it didn't say [/geek] on the back. Sloppy coding, says I.

Geez! Now everyone behind her's going to be a geek too!

That would have affect some less than others, of course.

From: [identity profile] grifyn.livejournal.com


That "have" in the second sentence is a total freebie. Because I love you so much.

From: [identity profile] logovo.livejournal.com


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<i<Geez! Now everyone behind her's going to be a geek too!</i>

giggling somewhere in San Diego

From: [identity profile] iocaste212.livejournal.com


Very much in agreement on F9/11 -- and I said the same thing in my review about how the Saudi sequence seemed racist! It was like we were supposed to see evil in the mere fact that the Bushes were hanging out with people in Arab clothing!

From: [identity profile] thisficklemob.livejournal.com


Hm... I thought the Saudi sequence went on a bit long, but the message I took out of it wasn't (as one British journalist put it) that the Saudis rigged the 2000 election, or anything so nefarious... rather it explained why there was never ever any possibility of military retaliation against the Saudis for 9-11, although the majority of the hijackers were Saudi... which granted, probably has as much to do with them being willing to sell us oil and call us an ally as it does the Bush family...

I thought the long "Shiny Happy People" sequence was too long... and a bit silly, since a still photo of two guys shaking hands isn't really "shiny happy people holding hands." I'm guessing he did it for visual resonance... but I didn't think it worked that well. That said, I didn't see it as racist... maybe because Moore humanized the Iraqis in a way the mainstream news almost never does.

About that shirt... there's another t-shirt that says on the upper right chest, and then on the lower left chest. That amuses me, although I don't think I'd buy it. First off, my geek credentials aren't that good... second, who knows if they'd place the screen pattern properly for my boobs? What if it cut them off early? ;)

From: [identity profile] thisficklemob.livejournal.com


Darn... there's a missing [boobs] ... [/boobs] in my comment. Told you my geek credentials weren't that good.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


See, LJ made your carets invisible, because it thought they were real html coding, so I don't know what the funny message was -- say again, please? (The next reply to my post has useful info on how to do this.)

From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com


<geek> never closes for me.

The magic formula, by the way, is &lt; (<) and &gt; (>). The semicolon is part of the magic formula.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Thanks! Useful information.

<Geek> never closes for me either, but as Grifyn said above, what about the poor people behind her, geekified without their consent?

From: [identity profile] pinkfinity.livejournal.com


And I spent the whole of the Shiny Happy People sequence thinking "eurodisney" as I learned last week that Saudis inevested a few hundred million in rescuing EuroDisney about 8 years ago...

Then again, I'm in the state where Gov. Jeb is in charge, and Disney's one of the largest landowners...
celli: a woman and a man holding hands, captioned "i treasure" (Default)

From: [personal profile] celli


Sloppy coding, says I.

*grins*

From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com

Off-topic: AIDS "education"


Rivka, have you seen the updated Federal AIDS education guidelines (http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/register/2004/Jun/16/33824A.pdf) (courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] twistedchick)? Note p. 33824 and 33825 particularly.

> (3) Clarify the requirement of the PRP by requiring identification of a PRP of no less than five persons who represent a reasonable cross-section of the jurisdiction in which the program is based to ensure better representation of the community to be served. The current Guidelines require the identification of a PRP of no less than five persons who represent a reasonable cross-section of the general population. The proposed Guidelines require the identification of a PRP of no less [sic] than five persons who represent a reasonable cross-section of the jurisdiction in which the program is based. This clarification should ensure better representation of the community to be served.

> This Section states, in part, that ‘‘education materials * * * that are specifically designed to address sexually transmitted diseases * * * shall contain medically accurate information regarding the effectiveness or lack of effectiveness of condoms in preventing the sexually transmitted disease the materials are designed to address.’’
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