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([personal profile] rivkat Feb. 29th, 2004 05:49 pm)
I think I've done more fannish stuff in the past 48 hours than in the previous 2 months. Go figure. Anyhow, a revised version of Commercial for Lex is up, newly compressed to an almost reasonable size (9 MB), and another experiment wherein I overuse effects but enjoy the result is here (19 MB, sorry). If I had to pick whose voice Brian Molko ought to represent, it wouldn't be Clark, but there you go.
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From: [identity profile] boniblithe.livejournal.com


Wow! Minor changes, but such a big difference. There's a whole narrative line coming out that wasn't quite there before and it's really neat. Thanks for posting the revisions!

Also I like the new one - RedClark wants to be Lex, so badly it hurts! Nice paralleling of the club scenes. You've got in here friendship, betrayal, secrets, anger, pain, woe ... and the song choice is excellent. You did some fantastic visuals here too - I don't know why you keep telling yourself you aren't a vidder because baby, you're kicking some serious butt.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Thanks. It means a lot for you to say that. What I was trying for with Running Up That Hill was that, by the end, it wouldn't seem an entirely unselfish wish -- Clark would rather have Lex's problems than his own.

Is SV very different for vidding from other shows because it's so obsessed with color, do you think? It seems like a lot of times I reject clips not because the content is wrong, but because the color is. It means you have to stick in Metropolis for a while (blue), or Lex's office (muted red/yellow), etc.

From: [identity profile] boniblithe.livejournal.com


Every show has a color range; SV has a pretty distinct set of them, so it can be a challenge if you're paying attention to it. At least it doesn't have quite as much of the darkness problem that Buffy and Angel did, with vampires having to be out at night so much.
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From: [personal profile] celli


Wow. The Lex one just makes me want to find him and...*ahem*...well.

And the Clark one is *great*! The end gave me goosebumps. :)

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Thanks. I *always* want to find Lex and ... *ahem*.

From: [identity profile] morgandawn.livejournal.com


Like the idea behind the vid -- in that you actually had a strong story to tell (not to knock the "hey look at the two guyds" vids). The parallels you draw are very clear. I think the song weakens the vid because it has no dynamic quality, but you were able to build some tension through edits.

keep vidding!

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Hmm. Can you say more about what makes a song dynamic? (Examples would be especially appreciated.) I don't know much about music; I just like to listen.

From: [identity profile] morgandawn.livejournal.com


Listen to the orginal Kate Bush version -- the repeated thrumming (which matches "running up that hill") is the constant. The song/singer however crescendos -- changes in intensity then slows down = dynamic.

I find that dynamic songs -- songs that change pace -- make better vids. This is not to say that you cannot use a song that never varies beat/instensity -- ex. a high energy song or a low smooth ballad. It means that the vidder needs to work harder to create the "story" (open - middle - climax - end) with the edits/images.

In this vid -- I felt wanted more tension (think about how that constant thrumming builds and builds in the listeners mind). I either needed musical release (ahem :-)) or a visual release. You almost had the visual release -- it would have been more powerful if the song had built at the same time.

And then there are vids that do everything we think we shouldn't do -- and still work, so this is all very subjective.

Take a look at Lum's "Other Side" Spike vid. The song is very deceptively simple. And look at how she works the music. I fthink this is one of Lum's strenghts.

What I've done (and this has worked for me) is to grab vids that moved me and absorb how they are put together.

Bottom line: you had a great story to tell. So keep vidding. Storytelling -- those are my kinda vids.


From: [identity profile] kittywitch.livejournal.com


Oh my god!

That was worth the time it took for my evil dial up, lol!

I really loved the effects and everything you did on it, and just the way its put together, its very very good.

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Wow! Congratulations!! In case you shouldn't have a new job yet now that you are to leave that wonderful town (sorry - *I* just love to be here!) why don't you consider moving into advertising? ;-) Looking forward to the fanfic discussion tomorrow afternoon!
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From: [personal profile] permetaform


fucking hell. watched the running small one.

fucking hell, but that *worked* for me. Excellent song choice, I loved the relentnessness of it, and what I got from it was a sense that even if there was a switch it would still be messed up. painful, powerful, and just. relentless and I think it needed that matrix of evenness that helped with drawing the parallels. Very nice.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Thanks. I wanted it to seem like Clark wanted to switch because he didn't like his own problems, and I'm glad it worked for you.

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Download no go


not sure why but My computer will only download the song but not the images, what am I missing do you know?

OH for songs I would love song hard rock of some kind, Like "I'm only happy when it rains" or the 3 doors down song "Kryiponite" with some action seq. I find I often see to many head shots and not enough movement plot shots in vids, oh BTW I did get your Lex one to load the other day but the pic so so small and when I tried to make it go full screen it was big a$$ blurry. Have you tried using media player or quick time? I find this download well and show up well. Maybe it's just me.

Lisa Lynn Beattie

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com

Re: Download no go


Do you have a Windows computer? If so, maybe you don't have the latest Quicktime player. Quicktime is what I use, and although it often looks dark on Windows machines, I think I finally got the compression to work so it wasn't ridiculously blurry. If you got one to load, you should be able to get the other -- I wish I knew what to tell you.
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From: [personal profile] permetaform


I wanted it to seem like Clark wanted to switch because he didn't like his own problems

ohhh. See, I didn't get that feeling because you've juxaposed images of Lex hurting with the "swap our places" line, especially with how happy Clark looks in comparison to Lex in some of those scenes. I sometimes got the feeling from the vid that Clark wanted to be Lex to order to help Lex, in a kinda "let me help shoulder your burdens" kinda way. Part of it's probably because I haven't seen the source images (despite keeping up with the plotline), I dunno.

Oh, reading some of the other comments, where the song changes pace and hit's it's climax is at the lines ""C'mon, baby, c'mon darling, / Let me steal this moment from you now." I think if you aim the plot of your story to that point for emotional impact you might lend more tension to the vid, if you want.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


I'm pretty satisfied with the effect I produced -- if you didn't get that feeling, that's okay as long as the vid worked for you. Though maybe it would have seemed a bit different if you'd seen the episode where Clark gets instructed to take over the world by his biological father, which is where some of the last images are from. Anyhow, making it was a real learning experience, and I suspect I'll be back with other vids.

From: [identity profile] giddyfangirl.livejournal.com


I haven't seen the second one yet (*glowers at modem*), but Commercial For Lex is *such* a great vid. Even if I wasn't already totally in love with that song, even if damselindistress!Lex, protective!Clark, violent!Lex and redk!Clark weren't four of my biggest kinks I would still love it for the pacing and the matching of the clips to the music and everything else, but with that song and those Lexes and Clarks I love it even more. It's so sweet and moving, and yet so very, very sexy. Mmmmm.

From: [identity profile] roquelaure.livejournal.com


Wow, great vids! I especially liked how you changed from scene to scene... the clips were pertinent, but the colors in the clips you used often matched perfectly! Makes for a very pretty effect.

Did you give the band/song credits somewhere? If so, I missed them. That singer is familiar - isn't that band on the Cruel Intentions soundtrack? Can't remember where I've heard them.

From: [identity profile] roquelaure.livejournal.com


Ooops, nevermind. I didn't have my Cruel Intentions cd handy, which is why I asked, but then I remembered that Amazon has handy sound clips. Found Placebo. *blush*

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