SPN spoilers

[rivkat]

Wow, that was a waste of potentially good material, given how enraging it was. I am choosing to interpret the good days/whore line as further evidence of Dean’s depression, which has recurred from S2, since even if you change it to “monster” it’s still moral deterioration from “saving people,” which Dean is now convinced he can’t do. Likewise, Lisa makes sense to me as icon of Things Dean Can’t Have. Though it’s a bit wince-inducing to talk a bunch about deadbeat dads and then have Dean … be one. Anyway, to me, untreated depression plausibly makes Dean despair, and it’s predictably unpleasant and static to watch. So many supernatural therapists for Dean, so little supernatural Zoloft.

Have some good news: podcath did a podfic of Finders Keepers (SPN Sam/Dean AU remix)! Audiobook here; mp3 here. And beadslut did a podfic of Ex Machina (SPN gen).

Also, those of you who’ve had trouble with LJ notifications: did opening a support request help? I haven’t gotten anything in a week, and it is annoying.

Comments

[serrico]

So many supernatural therapists for Dean, so little supernatural Zoloft.

Ha! Indeed.

I've spent all night trying to figure out the rationale behind the very *existence* of the good days/kill a whore line--like, from the writers' POV--because...okay, I can shrug off a *lot* of casual misogyny from SPN (*recognise and dislike* it, yes, but also shrug it off and focus on the better stuff), but that one was extreme even for them. Like, even kept rigidly within the context of the episode, it's *not funny*. And it's Julie Siege's name on the ep--which isn't to say that she necessarily wrote that line, but still, her track record with fail is one of the better ones on the writing staff.

All of which is to say...I still don't get it. *hands*

[locknkey]

So many supernatural therapists for Dean, so little supernatural Zoloft. This made me laugh! And it is too true.

The "whore" thing did not bother me as much as some and maybe it should have. Not a writing choice I would have made, but within Dean's characterization in show and the titular correctness of "whore of Babylon" I can hand wave it. Canon Dean is not particularly PC and right now he is broken and angry and I suspect maybe still part angry little boy upset that his mother abandoned him. (I can even see Lisa in this context - the only woman who knows what he does and wanted him anyway - very much an idealization) Still, disappointing choices on the part of the writers.

I actually find the hidden misogyny of woman's only value being their ability to reproduce, much more offensive. This is the best reason for Dean's happy to be all about Lisa.

[kuhekabir]

so do you have lj problems? i cant seem to access the website...occasionally it goes through just fine and then all i get is a blank page...i cant even open a service request because in order to do that i would need to be able to open the website! how annoying! do you know anything about that?

nothing to report on notifications on my end...but it is hard to know if i cant go and check!

[meret]

I meant to reply to your post, but accidentally replied to Serrico instead. Sorry!

[podcath]

Hey, I just uploaded beadslut's podfic to the archive, in case you want those links: mp3 (http://audiofic.jinjurly.com/ex-machina); m4b (http://audiofic.jinjurly.com/ex-machina-audiobook).

As for the whore comment. Sigh!!!!

[elz]

Anyway, to me, untreated depression plausibly makes Dean despair, and it’s predictably unpleasant and static to watch. So many supernatural therapists for Dean, so little supernatural Zoloft.

Heh, indeed. I came to the conclusion during BtVS and Angel that depression just doesn't translate well to television - it's the opposite of entertaining, especially in an action/genre show. I guess the good news is that there's nothing to snap you out of a funk like a showdown with Lucifer. For a little while or permanently, depending on how that goes...

Also, those of you who’ve had trouble with LJ notifications: did opening a support request help? I haven’t gotten anything in a week, and it is annoying.

I hadn't gotten any notifications in ages, and I finally checked my settings page and discovered that they'd been turned off (and not by me). So that might be worth a look.