Okay, so I posted a few days ago about the man who wrote an “eighth Harry Potter novel” and is getting some press attention (the link is to the Leaky Cauldron).

I stand by 100% the idea that it’s deeply problematic to present a millions-strong, largely female cultural phenomenon through the façade of a unique creation of a singular male. But I look at this guy’s undoubtedly successful self-promotion and I feel a pang. I want us to feel free to do that. I want more Luminositys!

And even within fandom, much less outside, I fear that not enough of us feel free to do that. Imagine your favorite HP author (or whatever fandom works for you) creating a website like this guy’s, adding art that looks a lot like the books’ art, using music from the films, not putting any disclaimer on it, and then sending out a bunch of press releases either to fannish or general news sources – would it make something twist in your stomach? Why? This guy’s not getting any C&D letters! Compare that to the story about Luminosity’s awesomeness, which (a) apparently came about because the reporter first talked to Henry Jenkins, not Luminosity, and (b) doesn’t include her name, at her request (and this is so very much not a criticism of her understandable position, but a point about the cultural and subcultural context).

I know I don’t feel very free to be forward. This is awfully hard to write: I want you to love the things I produce! Thus, I first want you to see the things I produce! Then, of course, love them. But I fear being seen as a crass self-promoter, dismissed and mocked. This has been brought home quite forcefully to me as I add a new fandom, my first since LJ took over “media fandom” as I know it. But I don’t think it’s entirely personal to me, and I do think it’s gendered. Study after study shows that women ask for much less in job/salary negotiations than equally qualified men, and that we give ourselves harsher self-evaluations, and these then affect what we receive.

In my professional life, I see the same gender divide – women require much stronger social ties before they’ll send out drafts of articles, even though that’s an important way to get noticed by senior scholars. The rise of SSRN (a preprint/reprint archive online) has been helpful there, because it allows people to post work while not “standing out” quite so much by person-to-person self-promotion.

Within fandom, we’re still working out proper conventions for self-promotion even when we do it. Nobody wants to spam uninterested parties. With SSRN, you put your work up, you give it keywords and an abstract, and you select which subject matter “network” and subfields it belongs to. Then various volunteers compile email newsletters that include everything posted that week within the relevant subfield, and – I think, because of something that happened to me – they may put in a work even when the authors didn’t select that particular subfield, if the editors think it’s relevant to their readers.

So SSRN is a bit like fandom newsletters/noticeboards, except that it moves on comparatively glacial academic time instead of fandom Wink of an Eye time. But SSRN newsletters rely a lot more on self-categorization. The norm is that you put your work on SSRN, and then it gets listed as a matter of course wherever you want to list it and maybe elsewhere, if you’re lucky. I haven’t done a comprehensive survey of fandom noticeboards, but it seems as if the mods usually pick up a fair amount in the course of their daily fannishness. This is understandable and efficient and I don’t want it to go away, but a fan whose work isn’t picked up as a matter of course has to speak up, which then interacts with a lot of our cultural training about when to speak up when you think there's already an ongoing conversation.

Technology changes the issues, for good and ill. The way I think of it is that our fannish gift economy asks us to put our wares out on the street, but discourages us from shouting out that we have shiny stuff because we might bother people – it’s the classic dilemma of advertising, to reach only the people who want your products when lots of those people may not yet know what they want! But online, the definitions of “street” and “shouting” are even more contested than the contours of conventional commercial street advertising. (And “gift economy” has problematics of its own, even apart from maybe cutting us off from otherwise available material rewards – if it’s a “gift,” then by giving it to you I create an obligation on you to respond somehow, but what if you think my gift is ugly and uncomfortable? No wonder you don’t want me pressing stuff on you! It’s risky! You don’t want to end up resenting me! There’s a great book by Robert Cialdini, Influence, that has a lot about how advertisers exploit the gift relationship.)

I was thinking about tagging as an answer to this – I bet some/many/most mods are already subscribed to particular del.icio.us tags. They allow newsletters to work the way SSRN does: a clearly structured way to say “include me in your update” that doesn’t require a public comment or individual email. (But is it proper fannish behavior to tag your own entries on del.icio.us? I felt too embarrassed to do it! Am I the only one?) The rules on the userinfo of the handful of communities I looked at generally were very clear on what they didn’t want to see in comments, and how to put fanwork info into a comment, but not about how to slide through via del.icio.us. (The bandom newsletter uses its own del.icio.us account, but doesn’t say it uses others’ tags.) There may be barriers to this that I don’t know about, not being a mod, but I would have loved to see, “if you want us to index your relevant posts, tag them [X] or [Xfornewsletter] through del.icio.us and we’ll check if they meet community rules and include them if they do.” It’s not necessarily a matter of being automatic, more seeming automatic -- as with SSRN, it’s the image that encourages participation.
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From: [identity profile] murklins.livejournal.com


I think that if major newsletters decided to accept link submissions made via the "for:" tag mechanism in Delicious, it might catch on really quickly, especially in fandoms where Delicious is already in heavy use by fans (SGA, bandom, SPN, etc). The problem though is that newsletter mods are already looking in a number of places for links, and checking the Delicious account's Inbox adds another step. Several steps, actually, because you have to log out of your own personal Delicious account and then log into the newsletter account to access that page. (Typically, we use a Firefox extension to post links to the newsletter account which allows us to stay logged into our own accounts -- very handy, avoids a lot of tedious logging in and out.)

Delicious is going to upgrade soon, though, and with the new release (early next year, I think) there will be the ability to programmatically access the links in your Delicious Inbox. This means it would be possible to have a script that will check your Inbox for you and then maybe email out any links. Having something like that would definitely make me more inclined to incorporate Delicious into the link submission process.

Looking at Delicious tag subscriptions will remain problematic, though, because of all the link duplication you have to deal with. Also, lots of links that get tagged are older, so editors have to check the dates of the posts really carefully. It's a much more time consuming way of discovering newsletter content, one that I really can't ask anyone to do on a daily basis.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


That's a really helpful explanation. So maybe I want to push harder on self-promotion norms and encourage that rather than leaning on the tech!

From: [identity profile] murklins.livejournal.com


Self-pimping cannot be encouraged enough! Much as I love to ferret out less publicized work and discover authors who are new to the fandom, a newsletter editor's life is so much easier when the links are delivered to her door.

From: [identity profile] murklins.livejournal.com


Oh! And I meant to mention that one of the fabulous things about the for:user tag in Delicious is that you can mark that bookmark as private and the user you send it to *still gets it*. So you wouldn't have to take the risk of doing anything publicly -- it can all be invisible to those who don't have access to the newsletter's Del account. Even if you don't like posting your own fic to your Del account, you could still take advantage of this feature by keeping those links private.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


That sounds really useful and thoughtful about possible user needs. I used Delicious most heavily for my professional blog, as a hack before Blogger supported native tags. Now I use it as sort of a catchall, but it sounds like I should prepare to use it more flexibly.
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From: [personal profile] abbylee


You may be interested in getting your co-mods set up to have multiple profiles. It takes a small amount of work [http://lifehacker.com/software/firefox/geek-to-live--manage-multiple-firefox-profiles-231646.php] and can end up creating a fabulous browser work environment.

Being able to be logged in to multiple accounts on the same website has increased my productivity immensely. Let me know if you want to hear more about how I use it to save me lots of time and fiddling.

(Obviously being able to do it right in Delicious would work best for you all in this situation. But alternatives are always better, especially if it relies more on your set-up than the website's.)

From: [identity profile] murklins.livejournal.com


Hee, you have skipped several steps ahead of me. I run multiple profiles for myself and couldn't live without them (gmail alone! but also dev work). I was thinking of maybe asking my co-mods if they'd be interested in a walk through on this topic, but not quite yet. The newsletter manual is already what you might call epic, and getting seven people through it all at the same time was challenge enough.

Anyway, good suggestion! We're still in early days yet, but I think in a few more weeks we might be ready to introduce more options and setup info. (Also, there is the fact that I will have to write more documentation. This does not immediately thrill me. *g*)
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From: [personal profile] abbylee


Hee. My original write up was actually totally written with the assumption that you knew how to do it, and then I figured I shouldn't just assume that because I've seen your code and stuff that you already knew this trick. I've been surprised too many times by how many people don't; and it was one of those things I saw and passed over before I realized how much it would change my online life.

(Another separate profile advantage that does require documentaion - you can let people download a profile that already has all the bookmarks/logins/extensions they need.)

Also, if you're ever in a position to need someone to help with documentation type stuff, feel free to keep me in mind. I've got the advanced knowledge and beginner voice to cover both sides when I'm focusing. And it's always good to give back to the community.

(See, [livejournal.com profile] rivkat, we can self-promote on topic :) )

From: [identity profile] murklins.livejournal.com


Another separate profile advantage that does require documentaion - you can let people download a profile that already has all the bookmarks/logins/extensions they need.

For real? I had no idea. That definitely sounds worth pursuing, since the manual has an entire section devoted to telling people what they need to download and install before they can even think of doing anything else.

Also, if you're ever in a position to need someone to help with documentation type stuff, feel free to keep me in mind.

Dude, that is a generous offer. I may take you up on that. I have vague plans of making the manual publicly available at some point and I may very well want some more eyes on it before I take that step.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


I am constantly amazed by the depth and breadth of knowledge in fandom (not to mention the ways that fandom helps develop various skills that are useful outside fandom as well).
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