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([personal profile] rivkat Aug. 3rd, 2007 09:11 am)
I don't know if it's connected to the deletions, but thamiris's journal showed up on my "manage friends" as gone -- no userinfo, no link. ETA: In comments, [livejournal.com profile] corbeaun reports that it was still visible, but by unfriending the journal and attempting to refriend she got the suspended/purged/deleted message.

Boy, do I not want to leave LJ. But it's looking likelier every day.
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From: [identity profile] cheights.livejournal.com


She's still there on my list, and I can get to her journal fine. I've noticed several times this week someone just disappearing from my list of friends and then when I look an hour later, they're back in the list. Very odd.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Hunh. She doesn't show up on my list, but I can see the journal now. Thanks!

From: [identity profile] nestra.livejournal.com


It's still showing up (http://thamiris.livejournal.com/) for me.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Hunh. How weird. I can see it too! I wonder if it's something to do with LJ's manipulation of the display (or absence) of usernames, rather than something to do with journal content. She showed up on my manage friends list as an unlinked, un-info'ed name.

From: [identity profile] zeldadestry.livejournal.com


A couple of months ago, she disappeared from my 'mutual friends' list, and then reappeared a month or so later?!? I don't know if someone may still have access to her LJ, although I don't think that would explain her absence from "manage friends".

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


I'm now inclined to think it's coding weirdness, since we know they're futzing with display options. But it is strange.

From: [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com


rivka, i'd be interested in knowing your take on what LJ is doing from a legal p.o.v., if legalities are relevant to your thinking of leaving. maybe you've already written about this, in which case never mind! but i'm sure your thinking is far more informed and better articulated than mine could be.

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


I just posted about some of this stuff. The law isn't the issue so much as LJ's implementation of its own policies. I understand LJ's position and its desire to overenforce rather than underenforce, but it's not responding to requests for clarification on fandom's time schedule, which is pretty much instantaneous these days. If LJ can get together a coherent corporate response and maintain fan-friendly policies, I'll be happy to stay. But if key friends start leaving for elsewhere, I'll lemming along.

From: [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com


ok, thank you for answering my question. i'll go read your new post.

i like LJ a lot and am distressed by all the anger and so on. my reactions to issues are usually primarily emotional, so i'm glad to see your more reasoned response.

From: [identity profile] acampbell.livejournal.com


Tham's journal used to do this even when she was still alive! It dumped me about three and a half years ago, and when I queried her about it, she said it was prone to "technical difficulties." No clue why, though. A lot of us now are no longer on her list, but can still see the f-locked posts, which is strange.

From: [identity profile] elynross.livejournal.com


I know that some of Tham's friends/admirers collected money to pay for a permanent account for her LJ, so that it would remain.

From: [identity profile] corbeaun.livejournal.com


I checked too; the journal looked fine. Then I did a little experiment: I un-friended then tried to re-friend thamiris' journal.

What I got instead was this error message:

"The account thamiris cannot be added as a friend because it is deleted, purged, or suspended."


WTF!!!!?!?

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


That is truly bizarre, especially since upthread someone noted that people pitched in to make it a permanent journal.

From: [identity profile] elements.livejournal.com


It's stuff like this that makes me not want to give LJ up entirely, no matter where else we go. We just have too much memory here, and not everyone can follow us to the next playground.
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