... the viral distribution of "Closer," gender dynamics in SW fan films, and related subjects. I found it interesting that he read "Closer" as a "cool" work, as opposed to a "hot" or "warm" work in its emotional orientation to the source material. He considers most fannish creations to be hot or warm. Along with this emotional temperature thing, which reflects a discussion I've seen among vidders, Jenkins succinctly sets forth various fannish debates about openness, YouTube, and the like.
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From: [identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com


He really gets it on so many levels, doesn't he?

What I found interesting in the entire followup to Closer is how many people on my flist suddenly "discovered" the vid (I assume from one of the larger blogs) even though they were pretty much part of the community (as if fanvids are only accessible/worthy to some when they are linked outside of the community?). The other thing that struck me is how many thought the vid hilarious, which is certainly not my reaction to it.

And I feel like such a non-fan, b/c I've never heard of ose....

From: [identity profile] wordplay.livejournal.com


I've never heard of ose

I'm glad to see someone saying that because even though I'm still relatively young in fandom years, I try to be relatively aware of language use within fandom and this one was completely new.

From: [identity profile] uberfrosch.livejournal.com


I've heard "ose" more in con-going filk circles than any other part of fandom I've lurked/participated in.

From: [identity profile] elke-tanzer.livejournal.com


I agree... I am boggled that some folks on my flist had never seen nor even heard of the vid before now.

Also, I've never heard of "ose".

But yay for Jenkins... he Gets It.
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From: [identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com


boy, that makes me feel better...if *you* had never heard of it :-) [someone mentioned it seemed to be a con thing, so that could explain why i've never heard of it]

it's not even like i expect everyone to be a vid viewer, but it is one of the ones that *always* comes up, doesn't it?


From: [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com


the article was very interesting. i thought the video was sensational, especially in the way it borrowed reznor's technique and angst and pain and applied them so beautifully to Star Trek. the technique is off-putting, though, as the original Closer video was. i found it like watching someone fascinating have a sort of emotional breakdown.
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From: [identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com


Most fascinating thing: How he mixes scholarly language with fan-jargon. "Angsty," for example. Is this intentional, or is he so immersed that he doesn't notice?

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Good question -- "angsty" pinged no bells for me, because it seemed like a regular word. "Ose," on the other hand, was unfamiliar.
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From: [identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com


I've never heard the word "angsty" in a scholarly discussion - but it's used in fandom all the time. "Angst," sure, but "angsty"? And he just uses it casually in a sentence, without further discussion. There were others, too, but I don't remember them all.
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