While I struggle with the last 500 words of my Yuletide story ...

I am told that the executive producer of this show is a gay man. I wonder, then, why the average gay man on the show is a murderous queen? I hate to buy in to crude "images of" analysis, and as [livejournal.com profile] geekturnedvamp pointed out to me, everyone's fucked-upness on this show is connected to their sexuality, but it still feels icky to me to have all the gay characters (except Liz) be vile along with all the straight ones (except Kimber).

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


I always had a bit of fondness for "Annie is the Carver" as a theory. If that kid survives her parents, it'll be a miracle.

Right, everybody is totally screwed up, so it's not as if the equation gay = fucked up is overtly made; rather it's human = fucked up. But I can't help feeling that N/T is a show that's easy to watch and have your homophobia confirmed, just because being gay is still the marked category. We're allowed to sympathize with the main three characters, who are all straight (*koff*) and given reasons for their fucked-upness, while the gay people tend to be defined by being gay and monstrous. I'm also distressed by the way that Sean, who the other characters treat as the moral compass, has behaved with vicious homophobia this past season.

Thanks so much for the icon link!

From: [identity profile] piper47.livejournal.com


If that kid survives her parents, it'll be a miracle.

No shit! When child protective services came in, I was like "Take her away!! Save her!!"

;)

I never really felt like the show was homophobic, or promoting homophobia at all. I think, the show just thrives on showing the dark side of everything.

Actually the show has only ever portrayed one "gay" character. Liz.

All the other "gay" characters have been transgendered.

The show *is* however "religious-phobic". I'm not religious by any means. But anytime they have showed religion on the show, it is these religous freaks who are basically *dangerous*.

The show really does just thrive on showing the evils of all sides/groups. No one is safe. Even our core three are screwed up and more often than not, in the wrong.

And no prob on the icons... *everyone* should have Nip/Tuck icons. :)

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com


Quentin was bi (which counts as gay for homophobia purposes) and not transgendered, from all we know. Granville Trapp -- the HIV+ guy who wanted to fuck without his partners knowing his HIV status -- was gay. The married serviceman who fucked Quentin was bi/gay (and I guess picking a guy who'd be conflicted about homosexuality made some sense, since it wasn't likely he'd try to give Quentin a reacharound, but it still seems pretty risky to Quentin's secret).

Good point about religion. Religion can be a source of comfort and strength, and these characters can't have that in their lives or the storylines don't work.
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